Scarlet Jewels: 'A Necessary Definition'
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 'A Necessary Definition'4 comments
picture 2003-04-29 09:58, by Julie Solheim-Roe

Sent by Roan Carratu of NCN:

"A Nationalist is someone who is offended if someone
protests against the government, does not worship it's
symbols -like flags and such, does not respect it's
leader, and states any opinion which goes against
government policy or statements. When the country is
at war, a Nationalist thinks anyone who says or does
anything the government does not like should be
killed, jailed, beaten, and/or deported, period. To the
Nationalist, anyone who speaks out with a dissenting
opinion is a traitor.

A Patriot is someone who loves the people of the
country, who loves the liberty and freedom of the
country, and who will uphold the ideals of the
country by protesting against what they perceive to be
government misbehavior, mismanagement, or bad policy.
When the country is at war, a patriot who feels
the war is wrong, for whatever reason, considers it
even more important to speak up, demonstrate, and seek
to find consensus to stop the war. A Patriot may or
may not wave a flag or sing nationalist songs, but
they do not put them over the rights of the people.

Nationalists, like Nazis, Royalist, and Totalitarian
Communists, have always been the bane of freedom,
seeking from their cowardice to lock down all
freedom with an extreme set of rules which they alone
gladly obey, in lockstep fashion. In America, as the
Second Iraq War shows, Nationalists and Patriots
are deeply mixed, and the Right Wing Nationalists,
through their radio pundits, are again seeking to
destroy America through their twisted fear of
freedom and Liberty. Nationalists have never failed to
destroy the ideals and eventually the existence of
their countries through perpetual war and internal
oppression. For examples, look at Nazi Germany and
Stalinist Russia."

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29 Apr 2003 @ 11:20 by catana : If only...
Is it possible to take back meanings that have become distorted? I like the distinction between a nationalist and a patriot, but to most people, they're the same thing. I can't remember who, but some great thinker said that patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel. We need a new word.  

29 Apr 2003 @ 12:57 by jewel : I agree....
Of course, and let's look for it. Good Quest! I find these defintions good to use mostly when dealing with those who are 'nationalist' but call me/ us... 'unpatriotic'... Posting these defitions here, are preaching to the choir, I know... but I like to keep a record, so next time someone says this to me, I have something brilliant to say! hehe.

I'll put it on my list for research... good point, Catana.. thanks!  

29 Apr 2003 @ 14:18 by catana : If you come up with the perfect reply...
let us all know. New memes for new times!  

29 Apr 2003 @ 23:28 by ashanti : Apartheid South Africa...
...was another excellent example of this. We had our schooling system of "Christian National Education" designed to turn out white women who would breed men to boost the army, men who would protect, in the name of Christ, the White regime, and blacks who would obediently accept their role as servant, biblically justified by the bit in the Bible that refers to the Sons of Ham as "destined to be servants". (Sons of Ham being the darker skinned people). How's THAT for scary? This method of education, devised by Hendrik Verwoed, author of apartheid, worked pretty well for about 40 years.....eventually it came crumbling down, thanks to the likes of Steve Biko, who taught that "the most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed".  

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